Monday, June 18, 2007

Rockets flying in from all directions onto Israel

Last Night I had the fortunate opportunity to read an article that stated that lebanon was in breach of UNSC resolution 1701, due to the fact that someone unknown to the lebanese shot a few barrages of Katyusha Rockets into Northern Israel, it shows how ignorant the lebanese government is and the UNIFIL who are not watching the border, this rocket attack also shows that the UN are not doing their job as someone is getting hold of arms from somewhere and that would also be in breach of UNSC 1701.

UNIFIL

luckily Kassam rockets from Gaza have stopped, but seeing as Israel has closed all borders to Gaza many palestinians want to get the hell out of gaza as they do not want to be under Hamas' rule, that is funny, why now are they not wanting to be under hamas' rule but they voted in hamas with "democratic elections" funny. Then Mr Abbas dissolves the government and declares a new one, funny that seems like a democracy, does it not?

PA is not a democracy but run by a dictator, and Israel is caught in the middle. Israel is the aggressor, what a joke, does this sound like an aggressor?

On Sunday, the IDF distributed water and food to the hundreds of Palestinians who had gathered at the Erez Crossing hoping to be allowed into Israel. JPOST
The PA can not even govern its own people and the "occupier","aggressor" or whatever you call Israel is nothing close to that.

All I see is Israel being sensitive to the palestinians as always and the palestinians forgetting the hand that feeds them. It is funny how the Israelis always come to the aid of the palestinians, UNRWA has left Gaza, Aid workers have left gaza so on and so forth, but it is the "insensitive enemy occupier" that is always there never forgetting about the palestinians, and helping them while the world watches and says nothing, but wait for the day that Israel pound gaza in order to help the palestinians they all forget about the good which Israel does for them and they have rallies in order to blame everything on the Israelis.

Bottom line is that the palestinians are ungrateful and more ungrateful.

It is funny how Fatah always send Israel messages via another country to ask for Israel's help and then once help is on its way and the mission is successful, the palestinians are firing rockets into Israel, or shouting curses at Israel. Israel please help us

While the world watches and knows how much Israel help the palestinians, they have the audacity to bend the truth in order to make Israel look bad.

These supporters of terrorists must wait for there turn and you know who wont bear a grudge and come help, Israel and the US, as they have done in the past

Wednesday, June 13, 2007

Hamas, The peaceful ideology behind the group

Peaceful, nothing could be further from the truth,

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up.
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.

After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.
Hamas Charter of 1988

How can Israel be obligated to try make peace with a group that does not recognise Israel's right to exist.

As JP said in a comment to Walton Pantland that when Hamas recognises Israel, past agreements and denounces violence, Israel will accept the government.

Must Israel make peace with every new government that is elected? how stupid would that be. Are Hamas better palestinians than Fatah or vice versa?

Walton Pantland says Israel is to blame for everything as they did not accept a democratic election which brought hamas to power, that is wrong as Israel has said absolutely nothing of the type of election or about the outcome, all they say is if the hamas government want to be recognised then they must abide by 3 rules which JP has stated.

Why must Israel recognise hamas if they do not recognise Israel? why should Israel respect past agreements if hamas does not want to, but Israel does respect those agreements, eventhough a new government is in power.

This infighting reminds me of the wars between the Xhosa and the Zulus.

Maybe here is a solution 'EU would consider Gaza military role'
yeah right just like the UN is stopping arms to hizbullah.

or maybe a 3 state solution

the problems get more and more for Israel and they are blamed for it.

All I see is a country-Israel- wanting to live in peace and harmony with its neighbours, keeps its nose clean and never attacks only defends, Syria mobilising on the Golan Heights, Hizbullah re-arming in lebanon, palestinians fighting and bringing the fighting closer to the lebanese- Israel border and also the civil war in gaza and probably soon in the west bank.

Israel is caught in the middle and is probably going to get attacked as usual, which will spark a war which everyone will probably blame Israel for starting.






'Palestinians comitting war crimes'

In internal Palestinian fighting over the last three days, both Fatah and Hamas armed forces have summarily executed captives, killed people not involved in hostilities, and engaged in gun battles with one another inside and near Palestinian hospitals.

"These attacks by both Hamas and Fatah constitute brutal assaults on the most fundamental humanitarian principles," said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director for Human Rights Watch. "The murder of civilians not engaged in hostilities and the willful killing of captives are war crimes, pure and simple."

Where are the reporters of South African media? They are not writing about this stuff. Where is Ronnie Kasrils and his cronies? What about our government condemning what the palestinians are doing.
None of these stories even make it to news broadcasts, but if Israel was involved that would be a different story, is that not true?

Just shows how screwed up and one sided the policies of our government are. It is so funny that hundreds of thousands of people are in solidarity with the palestinians, but turn a blind eye to what is happening in so called palestine and now that Israel is nowhere close to the fighting they keep quiet until an opportunity arises where they can blame Israel for the problems the palestinians have.
The funny thing is that anti-Israel lobbiests will probably find away of bending the truth in order to find a way of blaming Israel in the collapse of the PA government.

If the South African government actually cared about the palestinians do you not think they should have told the palestinians that a unity government does not work ever. South Africa did the same mistake and the unity government fell through big time.

How can you have a government where the majority want Israel destroyed and the other want peace, do you really think that type of government will work?

We now have the answer and it is a definite "NO" and the world and all the Anti-Israel lobbiests should wake up and look what is happening and think to themselves was their stupid fight for the palestinians worth it?

The palestinians are back stabbing all those people who have sent rallies and marches in their favour, trying to fight for their right to exist, looks like those people were fooled into the real agenda of the palestinians.

From the way these terrorists act and still have the support of many countries world wide it seems these countries need to really start thinking are they supporting the good guys are the bad eggs.

Where is the UN ? Where is the SAHRC ? Where is COSATU? Where is EU? and the list goes on and on all those that condemn Israel in what they do but turn a blind eye to what the palestinians are doing.

Our government is so two faced they are probably keeping quiet because the policies are not going the way they thought.

Let us see how long it takes for the palestinians to fire on Israeli civilians in order to get Israel involved and then the world condemning what Israel is doing. Happens all the time, Shame on those people, just remember what goes around comes around.

Source of quote

Tuesday, June 12, 2007

Walton Pantland, you like changing the topic don't you? come lets have a debate

Walton said...

A couple of points:

Yes, I have been to Israel, in fact I lived there for a year and speak Hebrew - though it's getting rusty. I arrived in Israel more or less a Zionist, but quickly changed my mind when I realised Israel was just like apartheid South Africa. Quite frankly, I am fairly confident that I know what I am talking about.

But go ahead and call me anti-semitic if that's the only way you can confront my arguments. That is a typical Zionist tactic: discredit your critics by calling them anti-semitic, debate semantics (is it really occupation?), or point to how bad other states in the Middle East are.

As for Israel targetting civilians, this is widely reported in media such as The Guardian and BBC, though I am sure you will just denounce these as pro-Palestinian anti-semites. I am sure you are aware that Israel has also murdered a number of peace activists, such as Rachel Corrie.

I didn't leave South Africa because I was 'scared of the blacks', in fact I joined the ANC in 1992 and I have been fighting for broad-based Black empowerment ever since.

You say:

"I am under the impression that Israel captured Jerusalem, West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights fair and square so where is the occupation? It is Israel's property, and in my eyes up to the government and referendums to do with it as they please, is this not right?"

Uh, no. I don't accept that conquest gives Israel a right to land in the Middle East, and neither does the UN, so saying Israel won the land 'fair and square' is pretty pointless. If I come and beat you up and take your house because I have a bigger gun than you, does it become my house because I won it 'fair and square'? If so, where do you live?

The fact that other states in the Middle East are as bad as Israel is not a justification of Israeli tyranny. Being an enemy of Israel doesn't make me an friend of Syria - I am an enemy of both, if you can understand the complexity of that nuance.

Quite frankly, I think we could do without Israeli arms, and Win XP.

The reason I compare Israel to apartheid has a lot to do with people like you - the kind of language you use is identical to that of pro-apartheid whites in the 1980s and early 1990s. You say "Israel has bent over backwards for the palestinians and the thanks in return are suicide attacks, home made rockets, road side bombs and the list goes on and on." That's exactly what white South Africans used to say about black people. They also used to point to the rest of Africa - the way you point to other Middle Eastern countries - as a reason for continuing apartheid.

And Its Almost Supernatural is another blog full of Zionist rubbish.

And by the way, if you are going to steal an entire post from my blog, please at least have the decency to link back to it.

June 11, 2007 6:15 PM
Mr Walton, I do not plagiarize, everything I use has its source if you actually had looked with your eyes and not what you sit on you would have seen above "here is my reply" the source of your article with the address, I take offence to your accusations, about me calling you an anti-semite as I never did and also saying that I stole your article.

Just because this discussion is not going your way does not mean you must get defensive and horrible.

you say that you "quickly changed your mind when you saw Israel was like apartheid South Africa", what do you mean by that, you cant just say something and then change the topic without maybe giving some examples.

"Uh, no. I don't accept that conquest gives Israel a right to land in the Middle East, and neither does the UN, so saying Israel won the land 'fair and square' is pretty pointless. If I come and beat you up and take your house because I have a bigger gun than you, does it become my house because I won it 'fair and square'? If so, where do you live? "

I wonder what history books you read? As Nasser said in 1967 "Arab Nations must come together to destroy the Jewish state" and they amassed over 100 000 troops in the sinai desert, more troops from Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and closed the straits of tiran, if that is not an act of war and seeing as the Israeli population comprised of about 2.5 million Jews most of them refugees from Europe did not want to see another holocaust, so when you say this was a conquest, I think you are talking absolute junk.

It is very funny your analogy, it means bugger all, Israel was about to be attacked and out of self defence they managed to gain the upper hand. I would think that Israel did not have the bigger guns as the USSR were just sending the arabs arms left right and centre.

In all the wars against Israel please inform me who started? I can assure you the last thing that Israel wants is war, all they want is peace and they try oh so hard but if you don't see that you never will.

as we see in the latest civil war (Which Israel probably started hey walton) they can't even keep agreements between themselves, they have gun battles in houses, hospitals, government buildings, at funerals, in the streets. How can you try make peace with someone else if you don't have internal peace?

Rachel Corrie, poor girl, but why you blaming Israel for it? her body was in pretty good shape if a D9 drives over you twice most of your body would be on the tracks, I know I have seen tracks after an encounter with hizbulla terrorists pointing RPG's at us -while I was stationed in lebanon- and we only drove over them once with Merkava Mark-IIIB.

try your excuses and try put the blame on Israel as many times as you want, but you always elude the fact about the innocent civilians killed by palestinian terrorists.

You make many allegations about me, which are all baseless, I am putting forward an argument and all you can say are things to try make me look like the bad guy, it was you that said no one ever wants to engage in a nice debate, but how do you want anyone to engage in a debate with you when you put words in their mouths.

Your views are so distorted, you say something but you never back it up. the way you write shows that YOU an not take criticism and think that your view is right and anyone who says otherwise are attacking you and you get horrible.

"I didn't leave South Africa because I was 'scared of the blacks', in fact I joined the ANC in 1992 and I have been fighting for broad-based Black empowerment ever since."

I never said you were "scared of blacks", I was proving a point about how you assume all your views, I see you are doing a wonderful job for the ANC, not. If you were such a good ANC activist, then why do you speak against the politicians who are your comrades?

"The fact that other states in the Middle East are as bad as Israel is not a justification of Israeli tyranny. Being an enemy of Israel doesn't make me an friend of Syria - I am an enemy of both, if you can understand the complexity of that nuance."

Excuse me, tyranny???? what are talking about? Israel is the only known democracy in the Middle East. Israel has never attacked any neighbour without being provoked and provoked time and time again. If you hate everyone how can you have an objective view, I do not understand that?

For you to say you base your opinion on comparing Apartheid to Israel because of people like me, that is very stupid because the amount I know about apartheid is so little I do not even try to justify it or the opposite, one thing I do know is to compare Israel to Apartheid is actually degrading the experience that a black person who really suffered during apartheid.

It would something like comparing what happened at the Virginia Tech to the Holocaust, baseless and horrible.

Please can I have some proof of blacks firing homemade projectiles into Cape Town from Gugs or khayelitsha or JHB from Soweto or kidnapping SANDF soldiers or blowing up buses.
There is one problem, Blacks were citizens of South Africa. Palestinians are not citizens of Israel and as I said before Israeli-Arabs have the same benefits as any ordinary Israeli citizen.

I do not see you comparing the lebanese government to apartheid? they are definitely doing a bit of ethnic cleansing, do you know that certain jobs in lebanon can not be given to a refugee? it is not only in lebanon but most arab countries, who have tyrants running the country.

Your comparisons are so far fetched that you forget about who is the real instigator to this crisis and the palestinians are just pawns in the chess game of the other arab nations.

It is funny how even after you were in Israel you can have these types of feelings, when did you go? My muslim doctor that I go to, said to me how he hated Israel and when he got there understood how much brainwashing he was subjected to by his imam. He was never searched once during his 1 month stay, he told me the countless walks along the Tel Aviv promenade and the hospitality that he was given, gave rise to him investigating a little bit more, and he came to the realisation that, Israel is not the enemy and actually it is a great place to live.

Another thing just because you disagree with something it does not mean it is rubbish, how can you say you want to debate when your answer is always, that's rubbish or saying something and not elaborating.

debate (source: http://www.answers.com/debate)

verb

    To put forth reasons for or against something, often excitedly: argue, contend, dispute, moot. Seeaffirm/deny/argue, words.

noun

  1. A discussion, often heated, in which a difference of opinion is expressed: altercation, argument, bicker, clash, contention, controversy, difficulty, disagreement, dispute, fight, polemic, quarrel, run-in, spat, squabble, tiff, word (used in plural), wrangle. Informal hassle, rhubarb, tangle. See conflict/cooperation.
  2. The presentation of an argument or arguments: argumentation, disputation, forensics. See affirm/deny/argue, words.
No where do I see attacking a person is a debate, so once you can engage in a proper debate and put forward proper arguments and not mere hearsay then maybe we can have a nice debate.

I am willing you must stop attacking because that just shows that your arguments are just unfounded and mere baseless information .

Monday, June 11, 2007

This is to Mr Walton Pantland

Make Israel history

Israel's victory in the Six Day War is the single biggest cause of conflict in the world today.

It's the fortieth anniversary of the Six Day War, and the beginning of the Israeli occupation of Palestine. This war, probably more than any conflict, has poisoned world politics ever since. I would argue that it's probably the single biggest cause of conflict in the world today, which is why I blog about it so much.

Here is an Amnesty International report about the devastating effects of 40 years of occupation.

I am as disturbed by the rise of militant Islam as anyone, but I think that it is the injustice done in Palestine that is the cause, and only creating a just solution will take away the Islamic fundamentalists reasons for existing. We are facing a so-called 'clash of civilisations', between Islamic and Western values.

But its Western hypocrisy that Muslims are rejecting, and the Israeli occupation - and US support for it - is what has made Islam the enemy of the West.

I had a scrap on the Zionist blog today. The readers of the blog find it impossible to concede that I can criticise Israel without being an anti-Semite. "This Palestinin crap is just another stick to beat Jews with", as Gary puts it.

They paint me as a rabid anti-Semite, who won't rest until every Jewish child is murdered. You just can't debate with Zionists, because when you write "Israeli troops target Palestinian civilians", they read "kill the Jew". There's just a total shut down, and inability to engage. Any media report about Israeli atrocities is down to media anti-Semitism, Palestinian lies, or both.

Most of the comments on the blog are written by hysterical ninnies, who claim that any attempt to establish a single, secular state will result in 'a second holocaust', that the Palestinians are this minute sharpening their knives for Jewish throats.

One of them claims that the occupied territories are being ruled by Israel through a UN mandate! And this is some one who wants me to 'read more on the topic' before I deign to have a say.

What other fantasies are lurking in the minds of the Zionists?

Well, a popular one is likening Palestinian fighters to the Nazis. One comment mentioned Arab collaboration with the Nazis before World War Two.

Yes, that's true, and it's a particularly unedifying bit of history. But guess what? The Zionists collaborated with the Nazis too!

There was even a medal struck to commemorate this:

The hypocrisy of it is nauseating too. The blog post was condemning COSATU's call for a boycott of Israel. But Israel has called for a world wide boycott of the elected leadership of the Palestinian territories, just because they don't like the outcome of the election.

I don't like the outcome either, but you can't claim to be a democrat and then refuse to accept the results of a democratic election.

When I likened Israel to apartheid South Africa - and their hysteria to Swart Gevaar - they assumed I was comparing the ANC to Hamas.

Do I need to spell it out? Criticism of Israel does not equal support for Islamists.

It's at times like this that anti-Zionist Jewish voices are important, whether they are Marxists like Yossi Schwartz, anarchists against the wall, religious groups or just Jews sans frontieres.

Distorting the truth

On the mother website of www.endtheoccupation.org.za there was a poster for one of their campaigns here it is

as you can see the palestinian boy is running from the Israeli tank immediately anyone would say "wow an Israeli tank rolling in and going after a poor kid" right?

Let me show you the real caption to this picture

What is this kid thinking ? or infact who told him to go do it? Who would have the balls to do something like this unless they know that Israelis do not fire at kids intentionally.

If anyone wants they can go to www.google.com and do a search throwing stones at tanks. and you will see countless amounts of similar pictures.

Seeing as I served in the Tank Corps of the IDF and due to driving in a built up area you would make smoke bellow from the exhaust to show your presence and therefore the picture would show smoke from the side( exhaust). I am thinking that this tank was not even running but in fact parked.

Kids have always been used as a sympathy tool, as the palestinians know that Israelis have a conscience and terrorists don't.

In this latest civil war in Gaza kids are idolising these gunmen

Should these kids not be at school maybe learning about peace and not violence? In all my years living in Israel I have never seen a similar case to this above picture.

In our country the ANC website had a link to www.endtheoccupation.org.za, this shows how linked our government is to a one sided bias opinion of the Arab-Israeli conflict. In our constitution it talks about equality and to be open minded about topics, here lies the hypocrisy of the ANC. How is it that they always defend the palestinians? Why do they never condemn the terrorists? Why is it always Israel's fault?

Is it not possible the militants are to blame?

Ronnie Kasrils does it yet again

Parliamentary debate on the Palestine-Israeli issue: Address by Minister of Safety and Security Ronnie Kasrils, MP
6 June 2007

Free Palestine: End Israeli Occupation

Madam Speaker, Honourable members, this speech is dedicated to the memory of David Rabkin, South African freedom fighter, who died in Angola. Forty years ago this week Israel's military unleashed lighting attacks against Egypt, Jordan and Syria, alleging provocations as justification for its strikes. Within six-days the Sinai Peninsula, Gaza Strip, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Golan Heights had been captured.

Apart from the Sinai from which Israel withdrew in 1977; the other areas remain under Israeli military occupation and control to this day. Whilst some justify Israel's actions on the grounds of pre-emptive self-defence, the obverse was the truth. From the horses' mouth we learn who the aggressor was:

Israel's military Chief of Staff, Yitzhak Rabin stated: "I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent into Sinai on May 14 [1967] would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it."

Menachem Begin, later Israel's Prime Minister, reminisced that the Egyptian army deployment in the Sinai did not prove that Nasser was about to attack Israel. "We must be honest," he explained. "We decided to attack him."

General Moshe Dayan explained that "many of the fire-fights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel." He said that the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights…did so less for the security than for the farmland"

These are clearly statements of an aggressor. Nevertheless, some claim that Israel is justified and obligated, from its birth as a state in 1948 in fact, to defend its land and people by force whenever necessary. But where is the morality in this? Fortress Israel, a militarist aggressive state, defends a stolen land that belonged to another people.

Moshe Dayan unabashedly explained:

"Before, the Palestinians very eyes we possess the land and villages where they and their ancestors, have lived. We are the generation of colonisers, and without the gun barrel we cannot plant a tree and build a home."

Israel's first Prime Minister, David Ben Gurion, stated in the 1950s:

"Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader, I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: We have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them. Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, its true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis but was that their fault? They only see one thing; we came here and stole their country."

Such statements contextualise Israel's position and show it has not been interested in real peace terms. In 1897 the founding father of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, stated that once in power the aim would be to: "Spirit the penniless population the Palestinians across the borders."

Therein lays the fundamental cause of the conflict, lest anyone remains unclear. It stems from the Zionist world view, its belief in a perpetual anti-Semitism that requires that Jewish people around the world; a faith group – should have a national home of their own. The biblical narrative was evoked to proclaim Palestine as the Promised Land reserved exclusively for God's "chosen people" and their civilising mission. It sounds all too familiar as a vision the Voortrekkers had in this country. It gives rise to racism, apartheid and a total onslaught on those who stand in your way, whether blacks or Arabs or red Indians. Many Jews do not agree with this Zionist world view, and declare that being anti-Zionism and critical of Israel does not equate with anti-Semitism.

Far from being a land without people, as Zionist propaganda falsely proclaimed, to attract and justify colonial settlement, the fact was that an indigenous people, the Palestinians lived there, developed agriculture and towns since the Canaanite Kingdom over 5 500 years ago. Indeed a delegation of sceptical Vienna rabbis travelled to the Holy Land in 1898 to assess the Zionist vision and cabled home: "The Bride is indeed beautiful but already married."

This did not deter the Zionists who plotted to abduct the bride and murder or expel the groom by whatever means necessary; and then defend what they had stolen at all costs by creating a supremacist Fortress State. That exactly sums up the bloody and tragic history that befell the Palestinian people, and their Arab neighbours, at the hands of a rapacious, expansionist Zionist project that has been the source of war and untold suffering in the near East for the past sixty-years and is the root cause of the conflict that threatens the entire region and beyond.

With the adoption of the United Nations Partition Plan of November, 1947; a Jewish homeland was accorded 56% of the territory although they owned seven percent and were one-third of the population (most of who had recently arrived as Holocaust refugees from Europe). The Palestinian majority were given 44% and were never consulted nor had they anything to do with the abominable suffering of the European Jews. The Zionists accepted partition with alacrity but never intended to honour the decision.

According to the Zionist's strategy, which has become public record with the declassification of documents, the intention was to roll-out a systematic reign of terror, massacres, dispossession and expulsion. This drove out the Palestinian population in a horrific episode of ethnic cleansing that saw over 750 000 or two-thirds of the indigenous people at that time becoming penniless refugees, as Herzl had promised. By the 1949 Armistice the Israeli state had expanded to 78% of the territory.

That was almost sixty years ago. The result of Israel's war of aggression of forty-years ago this week, an extension of 1948, saw Israeli military occupation of the remaining 22% of the land. The people within the West Bank and Gaza are literally imprisoned under the most unjust conditions suffering hardships and methods of control that are far worse than anything our people faced during the most dreadful days of apartheid.

In fact any South African, visiting what amount to enclosed prison-ghettoes imposed by a Jewish people that tragically suffered the Nazi Holocaust will find similarity with Apartheid immediately coming to mind and even more shocking comparisons with some of the methods of collective punishment and control devised under tyrannies elsewhere. An Israeli cabinet Minister, Aharon Cizling, stated in 1948, after the Deir Yassin Massacre: "Now we too have behaved like Nazis and my whole being is shaken."

If anyone has any doubt what the 1948 and 1967 wars were about, listen to Ben Gurion who stated in 1938: "after we become a strong force, as the result of the creation of a state, we shall abolish partition and expand into the whole of Palestine."

And mark these words of Moshe Dayan:

"Our fathers had reached the frontiers which were recognised in the United Nations Partition Plan of 1947 [56% of the land]. Our generation reached the frontiers of 1949 [78% of the land]. Now the Six Day Generation [of 1967] has managed to reach Suez, Jordan and the Golan Heights. This is not the end."

Indeed the saga of agony for the Palestinians continues, inevitably creating insecurity for Israelis as well; because as we know from our own South African experience, injustice and repression generates resistance. It is no good blaming the victims when they hit back. The Palestinian people's fate clearly reflects that of South Africa's indigenous majority during the colonial wars of dispossession of land and property, and the harsh discrimination and suffering of the apartheid period classified as a crime against humanity and violation of international humanitarian law. Israel is as guilty as the Apartheid regime. Israel's conquest and occupation, with the latest land grab caused by its monstrous Apartheid Wall and continued construction of the illegal settlements has reduced the West Bank into several disconnected pockets amounting to 12% of former Palestine. No wonder that Jimmy Carter, Archbishop Tutu and others compare the situation to Apartheid and the infamous Bantustans – which gave 13% of land for South Africa’s indigenous people.

This people's Parliament should be unanimous in calling for Israel's immediate withdrawal from the occupied territories, lifting the physical, economic and financial blockade and siege of Gaza and the West Bank removing the physical impediments to the freedom of movement of Palestinians including the Wall and over 500 check-points dismantling the illegal settlements – releasing 10 000 political prisoners (113 women and children amongst them) - negotiating a just solution with the elected representatives of the Palestinian people and implementing the UN Resolutions, including Resolution 194 of 1948, concerning the Right of Return of the Refugees.

These are necessary steps to create lasting peace, justice and security for Palestinians and Israelis alike, reinforced by international guarantees, so they may live in harmony. Since 1988, when Chairman Yasser Arafat and the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO) agreed to accept 22% of historic Palestine in the interests of peace they show they have been ready for negotiations.

Let us unanimously extend our solidarity and support to the forty-two members of the Palestinian Legislative Council, including the Speakers of the West Bank and Gaza, who together with ten Ministers have been summarily detained without trial, most for nearly a year, by the Israeli security forces. This is a shocking illustration of Israel's disrespect for Parliamentary democracy, the law and basic human rights so reminiscent of what we suffered under apartheid. We call for their immediate and unconditional release; and all prisoners held by both sides.

In support of these demands let us join with the people of our country, and the international Community, in the solidarity marches, rallies and demonstrations this week, the 40th Anniversary of Israel’s unjust occupation. And we make it clear to our Jewish community; these peaceful and disciplined actions are aimed solely at that government. The struggle for freedom and justice is against a system and not a people.

Let me conclude with the words of President Mandela, who declared in 1998 during the visit to South Africa by Chairman Yasser Arafat:

"We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians."

1 David Hirst: The Gun and the Olive Branch
2 Naom Chomsky: The Fateful Triangle
3 New York Times, May 11, 1977
4 Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi: Original Sins: Reflections on the History of Zionism and Israel
5 Nathan Goldman: The Jewish Paradox
6 The Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl, Vol 1, p 86
7 Avi Shlaim: The Iron Wall
8 Tom Seger: The First Israelis
9 London Times, June 25, 1969
10 Speech by Nelson Mandela at the Banquet in Honour of President Yasser Arafat of Palestine on 11 August 1998

Issued by: Secretariat for Safety and Security
6 June 2007

As this speech made it as an article in the Cape Times, I decided to write a letter which of course was not published, It is funny how RonKasrils gets upset when some of his hectic hate speech articles are never published.

So many people write to newspapers and they are definitely not going to publish everything, it seems as if Ronnie Kasrils thinks he is above the law and if he writes something it is of utmost importance.

All I see is the roots of propaganda. here is the letter I wrote to the Cape Times
which includes comments regarding Ronnie Kasrils and COSATU asking for a boycott on Israeli goods

I find that there is always a one sided view towards Israel, the ANC when they want something no matter what the cost they get it. Look at the World Cup no matter what disastrous effects it might have for South Africa afterwards that they do not care as long as it happens and they get the thanks in the end.

The same is the way they take sides in the Arab-Israeli Conflict spearheaded by (the self hating Jew) Minister Ronnie Kasrils.

After seeing all the quotes that Mr Kasrils brings to the article, it just makes your blood boil. Mr Kasrils bases his argument on mere baseless quotes that make Israel look bad. Why is Israel is always blamed? Why are the militants or the arab armies who start the problems ever blamed?
Can it not be because of the militants that the palestinians are suffering? Could it be because of false promises the arab nations gave to the "palestinians" before they were going to "annihilate” Israel?
Do you for one minute think that Syria, Jordan or Egypt would have given them a state if those places were not in Israel's rule?

I find that the majority of people are misinformed about what is really happening in Israel. As the majority of people in South Africa can't even afford a ticket to the Middle East and therefore believe the distortion of the truth which gets printed on paper or in the news.

High concentrations of Egyptian Soldiers were mobilising in the Sinai - a desert, come on how ever many quotes Mr Kasrils gives, What in the world were soldiers mobilising in a desert for? to have a party? No matter what anyone says there was a risk that they were going to attack and Jordan and Syria were going to enter the war, just then self defence came onto the scene and all the promises that the arab nations gave to the "palestinians" went up in smoke and Israel captured the territory and therefore was at Israel's disposal to give it back or keep it so on and so forth.

It is only because Israel is Sympathetic to the palestinians wanting a state of their own, that they bend over backwards in order to try get them a state, but lately the back stabbing is getting out of control.

Mr Kasrils talks about human rights for the palestinians, I say why you blaming Israel for the situation and not the militants?

There are more peaceful ways to finding a solution, homemade rockets, car bombs, road side bombs, suicide attacks are not peaceful measures? Incidentally, only after 6 months of rocket barrages did Israel decide to retaliate, it seems Israel is the only partner looking for peace, Peace does not even enter the minds of Hamas as per their Charter of 1988, look for yourselves.

Mr Kasrils is totally distorting the truth and trying his hardest to put the blame on Israel, when in my eyes it is the palestinians that are too scared to approach the militants and try stop them from trying to throw a spanner in the works.

Mr Kasrils also speaks of the experiences of Apartheid, now what is he trying to get at there? He was not even in this country during apartheid, he was sipping vodka with his comrades in the Soviet Union, while the real victims of apartheid stayed in the country, so what he read in the newspaper about what was going on and then has the audacity to compare apartheid to Israel which undermines the true victims’ experiences of apartheid, is that not so?

He has so elegantly shown the wonderful statistics which actually mean nothing, the bottom line is that Israel was attacked a day after independence by 5 arab nations, which of course led them to a disastrous defeat, again in 67 and again in 1973 which was the ultimate back stabbing tactic the arabs have ever used, attacking on the most holy day in the Jewish calendar. Most soldiers were praying in synagogues and by the time the army had mobilised, Syrian Army was next to the Sea of Galilee and the Egyptians were almost at Eilat and the Jordanians were getting ready to cross the Jordan river, a month later Syria was back in Syria and lost a village called Kunetra which in fact Israel donated to the UN and they have set up camp next to it, Egypt was pushed right back into Egypt and Israel still held onto the Sinai peninsula, so on and so forth.

The way I see it, is that the majority of anti-Israelis get their views from the distortion of the truth and they do not know the full story.

Is it not absurd to base your hatred because of a few articles you read and then say "oh this politician must be telling the truth, he would never lie to us?"

Does anyone know what Zionism is? Zionism is the love for Zion or Jerusalem, it is pure patriotism, nothing other than that. It is because of certain leaders using the word in the wrong context that it has lost its real meaning.

If the arab nations had not attacked Israel, maybe the palestinians could have been celebrating their 59th year of independence, but Israel is getting blamed for a path which the Arabs took and which was to their detriment, and this is all Israel's fault as Mr Kasrils is putting it.

The bottom line of his article is really, if Israel did not exist the world would be a better place, sounds like the same hatred which comes from another peace loving leader President Ahmadinejad.

With all these resolutions that the government want to pass and all the boycotts that COSATU want to impose, they forget the $290 million in exports (not including diamonds) to Israel that they are going to have to cut off, and don't forget the $230 million worth of imports from Israel, oh and by the way most arms and ammunition used by fidelity guards, police, SANDF are Israeli made.

This government changes its views so often, I do not know if they know what is really going on, and sometimes they forget the hand that feeds them.

Sunday, June 10, 2007

Kasrils the biggest instigator


May 03 2007 at 04:05PM Kasrils invites Palestinian PM to SA
Gaza City, Gaza Strip - South Africa on Thursday invited Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas to visit, in what would be his first trip outside the Muslim world.Haniyeh would like to meet with former South African President Nelson Mandela during the trip, according to a Haniyeh aide.The invitation was issued by visiting Intelligence Minister Ronnie Kasrils, who met with Haniyeh."We stand by you and support you," Kasrils said of the new Palestinian unity government, a coalition of Hamas and the Fatah movement of moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
Haniyeh accepted the invitation"We in South Africa look forward to you being able to lead a delegation to our country," Kasrils told Haniyeh at a joint news conference.Haniyeh accepted the invitation, but no date was set for a trip.Ahmed Yousef, Haniyeh's political adviser, said the prime minister would like to meet with Mandela.Another government official from Hamas, Mohammed Madhoun, told a pro-Hamas news website that Haniyeh planned to visit South Africa as a part of a tour to Malaysia, Indonesia and Turkey. Haniyeh may also informally visit Switzerland at the invitation of a civil society group, Madhoun said.Kasrils demanded that the international community lift its aid embargo on the Palestinian Authority, imposed after the militantly anti-Israel Hamas came to power in elections last year.
South African official's comments drew Israeli criticism"The people of Palestine are facing a collective punishment by those who were not happy with the result of a democratic election," he said.The sanctions were designed to pressure Hamas to recognize Israel, renounce violence and accept past agreements signed with the Jewish state. Hamas never met these demands, and the coalition government formed in March has not explicitly done so, either.But Kasrils said the South African government believed "the government of Mr Haniyeh and President Abbas have gone a long way to meeting those requirements as we understand them."South Africa has been an early supporter of the new Palestinian government.But the South African official's comments drew Israeli criticism. Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mark Regev said extending inviting leaders of a movement still pledged to Israel's destruction would "entrench extremist positions".Regev said the move gave "legitimacy and recognition to an unreformed extremist Hamas leadership". - Sapa-AP


I then sent a letter to the Cape Argus which published but also had a bad letter next to mine


This letter by "Darryl Lazarus" who incidentally does not exist incites quite harsh words like "illegal State of Israel"

I then wrote another letter which did not make it to the news but will get aired via my blog

In the warped mind of Darryll Lazarus(Cape Argus, 08 May 2007)he cites very harsh comments about events which take and took place in Israel. Why is he so against Israel? What does he mean that Israel is an illegal state? I am sure Mr Lazarus supports all anti-Israel resolutions brought on by the UN so why does he not support the resolution which was voted with a majority yes vote from the UN in 1948? If the Palestinians wanted a state of their own 1947 partition plan would have given them one, but instead the very next day 15 May 1948, Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Arabs in Israel attacked Israel to try and conquer it, they were unsuccessful. In the next wars Israel managed to annex the Sinai peninsula, Parts of the Golan Heights, West Bank, Gaza and even parts of Lebanon. I find the Arabs sore losers as they started the wars and lost land and want it back so they can continue their agenda by trying to conquer Israel. Is it known that there are actually Arab members of parliment that were voted into the Knesset DEMOCRATICALLY and just a few weeks one of them left the country under suspicious circumstances and it so happens he was a spy for Hizbullah. Mr Lazarus how come you do not talk about the many suicide bombers caught everyday trying to kill innocent babies, children, adults, which they have done in the past? You give a very one sided approach to your half truths. Mr Lazarus did you see the "innocent children", the "1000's of Lebanese civilians" getting killed? if not you are basing everything on speculation and articles from journalists that have constant death threats just incase they write the truth and therefore how can your letter be trusted ? I would love to see peace just like everyone else but how can Israel just be willing and no one else? When the palestinians openly say they want to erase Israel from the globe or they say Haifa, Jaffa, Acre, Jerusalem will never be part of Israel. Wow this is so sincere of the palestians I now see they really do want peace. Mr Lazarus the real extremists and terrorists is definitely not Israel, but those countries rearming Hizbullah and Hamas which is in contavention of UN resolution 1701, incidently the UN is doing nothing to stop the rearming or to enforce the embargo. What about the Kassam rockets all 150 shot into Israel since the "ceasefire", just 2 days ago one landed a few metres away from a full kindergarten, another on a petrol station where someone was seriously injured, Let me guess Mr Lazarus you are totally against Israel taking out terrorists but it is fine for the terrorists to shoot at a kindergarten, as it is for a good cause. Using schools, Hospitals as weapon caches is that humane? Things like this I have seen with my own eyes. Incidently this same tactic is being used by Iran, building its reactors close to cities. This inhumane tactic of using women and children as human shields is to hopefully cause the conscience of the soldiers not to fight and get killed, the woman or child being used as a shield is dead if they accept and dead if they do not and no matter what Israel do the picture of the dead body will get to the news and someone like you, Mr Lazarus will interperet it the way the terrorists want you to, unless you actually know who you are dealing with and try to find a serious solution. Mr Lazarus by the wording of your reason for the past Lebanon war," Just because of one soldier" shows how much you think of the sanctity of life, and it is not just one soldier, it close to 10 POW's and almost 6 million Jews in Israel, which the terrorists and you do not care about. Just another reminder that Israel does not have an army it is known as the IDF, the Israeli DEFENSE Force. For the past 59 years all that Israel has been doing is defending itself from hostilities, do you realise that the state of palestine could be celebrating their 59th year of independence, but they chose the other path and you, Mr Lazarus and your supporters of these terrorists are in full support of them choosing that path, I have pity on you.
Mr Lazarus, all I can do is pray that you and all your friends like Kasrils, Zapiro and many others mend your ways because ultimately this way of thinking is going to bring your downfall.

Then what happened was that the letters were written by a "Daryll Z Lazarus" but still it is unknown if this guy actually exists, there is incidentally a Darrel Lazarus in Fresnaye different spelling and so on and so forth.

another letter sent to the argus yet again it was not published and here it is

In the letters from Daryll Z Lazarus, he cites many things like threats and facts and so on and so forth. The use of such harsh words, where did he get them from ? the way he puts it, Darrel was threatened with his life, which I can not believe. To Daryll Z Lazarus your facts in your letter are so distorted that you are convinced that they must be true because you read it somewhere, If I believed everything I read, the world would be such a great place, because the holocaust was invention, Iraq was never invaded, There is no crisis in Zimbabwe and the list goes on and on. All those wonderful terrorists that you support have said those things and written them in the newspapers, so they must be true. I find your letters to be hypocritical due to the fact that you are coming out and trying to mend so-called threats on a person that does not want to be associated with you, the same type of person you are talking about in your letters(the ones that cant take criticism). The way you compare your "freedom Fighters" to the palestinians is not valid as it is 2 countries and defined borders that are involved, the whites of Apartheid where South Africans and during WWII, it was Germans standing up against the nazis, but in Israel, palestinians are not Israelis, and Israelis are not palestinians so it is a totally different scenario and has no validity, when trying to compare the Arab-Israeli conflict which incorporates close to 15 Arab countries against 1 Israel whose size is smaller than the Kruger National Park, you can not compare this situation to any other countries as when last did you see 15 countries against one, or infact one religion against all others living in Israel. This is unheard of and nothing can be compared to it. I am full in support of criticism but when it is only one sided, hypocritical and has no first hand proof, I am sorry but silence should be the option.

more Ronnie Kasrils posts will be done tomorrow as the information I needed is on my computer at work